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Durban Scouts Banner
Submitted by capdog on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 12:45

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We're making some changes around here, and this is the first draft of the new banner from the graphics department. So I'm going to hold off on saying what I like and dislike about it, instead let's hear it from you guys first. Is it a winner?


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Subject:  logo/banner comments
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Author:  kliktrak
Date:  31 July, 2007 - 13:33

very cool :-)

but shouldnt that front of a Mynah bus be replaced by front of a new people mover to keep it "contemporary" ?? ;-P

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Subject:  Clutter
Author:  hedmekanik
Date:  31 July, 2007 - 14:21

Keep the Mynah (those people movers look like any bus anywhere in the first world), lose the clutter.


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Subject:  Thanks for the input guys,
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Author:  capdog
Date:  31 July, 2007 - 17:12

Thanks for the input guys, agree about having less objects. I also suggested a different font, and mirroring the entire banner left-to-right, so the sea is on the left hand side, and moving the text to the left.


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Subject:  2.57 cents
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Author:  the_looking_glass
Date:  31 July, 2007 - 21:16

Now this is what the scouts HQ needs right about now, a facial. Dig the logo but 1 or 2 suggestions:

*Perhaps use more "core durban elements" in the cluster, such as vervet monkeys, bunny chows,indian mynahs?

*perhaps too many focal points, wave could go- keeping some sort of swish towards that direction, with opaque durban scouts text following the wave.

i dunno.. but its definitely going in the right direction.


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Subject:  yeah
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Author:  one track mike
Date:  31 July, 2007 - 22:03

"desperately seeking meaningful overnight relationship.."

Agree on the more 'core' imagery - like a carguard wearing an iron fist t-shirt.

Just kidding (about the carguard)


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Subject:  graphic
Author:  chrisso
Date:  2 August, 2007 - 10:55

I like the ocean on the one side and the city on the other. Would prefer a sick photo of the ocean rather than a graphic tho, blended into Durban synonymous objects, like a skanky bunny and a joint. And how about showing a black,indian,coloured and white guys all hugging and smiling (just kidding)


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Subject:  HAHA!! Thanks for the tips,
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Author:  capdog
Date:  2 August, 2007 - 11:30

HAHA!! Thanks for the tips, I will speak to the artists and see what kind of compromise we can come to.


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Subject:  Slogan?
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Author:  DeanRichards
Date:  3 August, 2007 - 06:38

DurbanScouts - Beach, Bunnies and Babes...


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Subject:  I like it! Has a nice
Author:  georgie
Date:  9 August, 2007 - 14:04

I like it! Has a nice busy-chaotic side and a calm wash of water on the other side- quite appropriate!


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Subject:  change good. stagnation bad.
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Author:  PrairieDog
Date:  13 August, 2007 - 12:43

Am I the only one that thinks there's more to Durbs than bunnies, spleh and surf? Not sure what exactly but I can't help feeling that it's our fault that we're seen as the 'poor cousin' of SA cities.
PE and East London don't count.
A perfect example is a gig guide i heard on the radio, it was for the upcoming long weekend (womens day). it went like this:
Jozi - 12 events
CT - 10 events
East London - 3 events
Durban - 1 event. at Burn.

It just made me sad. Such a cool city, so much potential but things are always a little off. Still miss it but at least Jozi has more than one option.

Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.
- Al Einstein.


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Subject:  Erm , yeah...
Author:  hedmekanik
Date:  13 August, 2007 - 13:22

Would pull my hair out about it, but there's not much left after various attempts at getting people's asses off the sofa.
I think the issue is that, even amongst the peeps who use this site, we're all preaching to each other - the converted. There's a yawning chasm that separates the likes of us (who feel frustrated at the lack of cultural highlights here, which includes being left out of national tours by big-name acts) and those who listen to East Coast Radio and think that Enrique Iglesias is something to get excited about.
And even amongst the converted, there are fracture lines - even though there are plenty people who don't accept the mainstream as unquestionable some dig this, others dig that, and any event that can unite what is essentially a disparate group of heads is remarkable. Shit, even THEN people still don't attend, cos it drizzled two drops, or there was a crucial pizza & dvd evening...the list goes on. Hardly surprising that big-name promoters are passing us by, when we've not got off our lazy asses and actually pitched at those gigs they DID stage in our area.

So it looks like if you don't like Celine, Mariah, Britney, Justin, Beyonce, Kabelo, HHP, Mafikizolo or Danny K, you're screwed.

The moral of the story? Do your own jols.
Because it's patently obvious that nobody is tripping over themselves to do them for you. And those who have made the effort have seen that effort go unrewarded. Hardly a recipe for a thriving cultural scene. It lurches and collapses, picks itself up, and falls flat on its face again. And then someone new comes along, they get disillusioned etc etc etc ad nauseum...


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Subject:  True words. And the fact
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Author:  capdog
Date:  13 August, 2007 - 13:39

True words. And the fact that half of Durban-born 20 to 30-somethings live and jol in London, then come here to retire.

Then there's the problem of de-urbanisation, where the other half of 20 to 30-somethings that are still here have scattered to the suburbs and only ever go to the local pub cause they don't wanna drive around town pissed.. you know the story.


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Subject:  Catch 22
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Author:  PrairieDog
Date:  13 August, 2007 - 14:41

HHP? The wrestler?
Seriously though, I agree with you about a lot of what you say on most issues but some things are just not possible. I can't throw together an event of the calibre i'd like to see. It's not my field. Sure I'm mad passionate about Muse or Tv on the radio but i wouldn't have the foggiest idea of how to get them down here.
And it's not even like Durbs gets crap acts. Our criteria for live acts seem to be governed by complete apathy. In CT, it costs a lot and takes a while but it gets done. In Jozi, it happens fast and there's a crush but it gets done. In Durbs, people talk about it, plan for it, wish for it and nothing gets done! (and I don't even mean the Super14:)
What's wrong! what's different about Durban vs. the rest of the country/ world?
And I've already heard the slacker arguement, that we're slow off the mark when an act actually comes down but I'm not going to defend staying at home instead of going to see Bryan Adams, again. If it's rubbish I won't go.
Perfect example; last years Co-Lab, every event in the country bombed, bad planning, no beer, no food, crowded walkways... The Durban one rocked out with its sock out yet Durban took it in the doughnut this year by not even getting a leg of the tour.
Can you explain that?

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Subject:  Hmmm...
Author:  hedmekanik
Date:  13 August, 2007 - 14:59

I can't, but if you get in touch with BIG Concerts they might be able to. Seems the big promoters have been burned - even if the Colab thing blew up here, it was a rare occasion. That'll be the smack-between-the-eyes-guaranteed-response that was Metallica. Shit, if THEY hadn't pulled every last hermit Durbanite outta their shells, nobody was gonna.
Mind you, I was round the back of that gig at the dance area and DAMN, but that night was one when I loved Durban for being so clueless - me & my mates got to see Stereo MC's, Audio Bullies and Fatboy Slim upfront and personal with about two hundred other nutters. Shit, I even caught Fatboys' airhorn hat. But it speaks volumes about the headspace - if acts as good as those go lacking in audience, whereas meathead metallic acts get an army of boozed brawn, as the tune goes - Where's Ya Head At?


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Subject:  drifted
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Author:  PrairieDog
Date:  14 August, 2007 - 13:32

Our little thread yesterday stuck with me all the way to the pub and into the beer-addled conversation.
What emerged was this. We drifted off topic.
The initial posts on the thread hint that the logo should be focusing on so called icons of Durban. Firstly... why is the Indian Mynah an icon of Durban? Those things are like rats... they're everywhere... not just Durbs. And what's with the stop sign? And the 30km/h sign? Movie cameras, binoculars and other cameras? Even the sacred ibis/hardida....
Then we moved onto a discussion about Durban culture; where are the "cultural" events?
Ok I'm more than willing to admit that there's more to culture than live music gigs/clubbing.
Maybe your logo Cappie should focus on the big events Durbs does host? The July? The Gunston (ok Mr Price Pro)? Film Fest...?
Finally, now these were around the Jagerbombing hour -
The live music thing... maybe Durbs just doesn't have the crowds. Events should be focussed on being more intimate - but that always comes with a price tag - and are people willing to pay extra for quality acts? Love and hate that i saw Eagle Eye Cherry for like R100 last month in Jozi and last year Mattafix and Jamie Cullum were here charging the same. Durbs seriously needs some channels to advertise what little is going on... this site is great in that regard.
That's my 2 cents...


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Subject:  That is the new Durban city
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Author:  capdog
Date:  14 August, 2007 - 13:47

That is the new Durban city council banner of http://www.durban.gov.za

I think the new Scouts logo is too similar to this. You can see there are a few of them, if you click the different website sections, all with the wave on the left.


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Subject:  hehe...
Author:  hedmekanik
Date:  14 August, 2007 - 14:43

funny that...the geezer who sits across from me designed that...hehe. Small town, fo sho...bound to have the same influences / perspectives.

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Subject:  Yep, nice blog BTW!
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Author:  capdog
Date:  14 August, 2007 - 14:57

Yep, nice blog BTW!


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Subject:  Shameless, I tellya, utterly shameless
Author:  hedmekanik
Date:  15 August, 2007 - 06:51

I love it when a plan to shamelessly self-promote comes together!

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Subject:  coffee
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Author:  No lekker man
Date:  15 August, 2007 - 10:16

OOPS UP SIDE YOUR head
totally off the subject,but capdog did u get my mail on my new coffee shop in the point area..beside the point..


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Subject:  new banner
Author:  noodle (not verified)
Date:  16 August, 2007 - 07:32

Its generally good, but the pics are looking really dirty. And I don't know if the 'digital' type really says Durban to me. Its also a bit small, you only notice it as an afterthought.


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Subject:  Good points, I agree on the
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Author:  capdog
Date:  16 August, 2007 - 13:18

Good points, I agree on the font and the position! It's definitely a work in progress.


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Subject:  aww...durbanscouts is growing up...isn't it cute!
Author:  voyager
Date:  17 August, 2007 - 21:31

Well, what I mean is it looks like there's new thought being put into the site and the community behind it. I like the new logo attempt - it speaks to those Durbanites who love the city and it's peculiarities and who take an interest in it. OK, so the F.A.Q gives a slightly different interpretation...


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Subject:  e'Thekwini Scouts er eThek-"wiener" scouts ?
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Author:  kliktrak
Date:  24 August, 2007 - 10:33

capdog at least this isnt the e-Thekwini Scouts !

hell i dont think we would dig to be scouting out that kind of action

Article below copied from M&G online: original article: HERE

eThekwini mayor wants embarrassing name neutered

Johannesburg, South Africa

23 August 2007 12:11

Red-faced at explaining the name to visitors, a South African mayor is now pushing for a fresh title for one of country's main municipalities, which translates as a pair of bull's testicles.

Obed Mlaba, mayor of Durban, wants eThekwini municipality to be included in a review of place names designed to honour heroes of the struggle against white-only rule at the expense of the architects of apartheid.

Durban, the country's third largest city, is the capital of the larger eThekwini municipality, which refers to the shape of the bay area.

"If you unpack what eThekwini means, it just doesn't sound right," Mlaba told the Star newspaper.

"A lot of people overseas have asked: 'What does eThekwini mean?' Then you start saying 'Well you see, ummm, please pass me the milk for my tea' because you are not proud to say what it means."

Mlaba instead favours the name of KwaKhangela, which translates as 'Watch Out' (for attackers) in Zulu. -- Sapa-AFP

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Subject:  Haha, yeah they should've
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Author:  capdog
Date:  24 August, 2007 - 10:43

Haha, yeah they should've thought of that before they renamed it.

Personally I don't care if he's embarrassed, get over it is what I say, ANC made the bed now they must sleep in it.

I glow with pride every time I tell people about the city bay shaped like bulls balls!


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Subject:  new meanings - bulls balls
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Author:  kliktrak
Date:  24 August, 2007 - 12:47

;-P

also gives new meaning to the comtemptous term the Voortrekkers used for the British Colonials

"SoutPiel"

roughly translated "salt-balls/scrotum",
cause they reckoned the colonials had one foot in Europe and one foot in SA with their balls dangling in the sea...or so i have heard the legend recounted

;-P

nothing like an "eThekwini Soutpiel" then !

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Subject:  Um...knob-end, actually...
Author:  hedmekanik
Date:  24 August, 2007 - 13:26

Fill a bowl with water.
Put it on a chair.
Stand above said vessel with legs apart.
Ain't gonna be nuts that go in first...unless...well, let's not go there. This is a family show after all.

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Subject:  expert knob twiddlers
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Author:  kliktrak
Date:  24 August, 2007 - 13:53

;-P

well as an expert knob twiddler myself... erm...

i guess i should have known my knobs from my balls - but then again i dont get to slide or twiddle any balls in my performances, although I know Seake have quite a large joystick they thrust and jerk when they perform for an audience...

errrmmm...what were we talking about again...

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Subject:  :P
Author:  hedmekanik
Date:  24 August, 2007 - 14:33

Family show....yeah, right...

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